I have rarely enjoyed a memoir as much as I liked Liesbet Collaert’s, Plunge: One Woman’s Pursuit of a Life Less Ordinary. Maybe because at my core, I’m nomadic. She does what I wish I would (and don’t). Here my review if you’d like to read more about this wonderful life story.
No surprise, I had a few more questions she didn’t cover in her book so Liesbet agreed to drop by and answer them:
- Do you like wandering on water in a boat or land in a van better?
- Will there be a sequel to Plunge?
- I get the sense that you and Mark don’t worry about problems (with some notable exceptions you mention in the book). You trust yourselves to handle most of what you face. Right or wrong?
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Thank you, Jacqui, for inviting me to your informative, entertaining, and diverse blog WordDreams after you already surprised me with your fantastic and detailed five-star review of Plunge – One Woman’s Pursuit of a Life Less Ordinary on my birthday in November.
- Do you like wandering on water in a boat or land in a van better?
What a great question. And, not an easy one to answer. I tend to think that there is a good time for everything, based on our circumstances, desires, and fate. Hopping on a sailboat seemed like the perfect adventure at the time and I enjoyed (most) of that eight-year experience in the Caribbean and South Pacific, until there came an end to it and we moved into a 19ft campervan to explore North America and, hopefully, beyond.
What I’m trying to say is that there are advantages to both lifestyles. While adventuring on land is less challenging than on the water (less life-threatening conditions, less maintenance, lower costs, more freedom to go wherever, the weather is less important and all-consuming, more outdoor space, and prepping/planning isn’t an ordeal), there are many factors that I miss about the boat life.
Wandering on water allows for more peace, quiet, solitude, and – most important to me – being one with nature. Wildlife interactions, jungle hikes, snorkeling with colorful creatures, immersing ourselves in exotic cultures, … these are things that I currently miss on the road. Plus, we managed to isolate for longer periods of time, since we could be self-contained for a month or longer.
On our 35ft sailing catamaran Irie, we collected rainwater, created electricity with solar panels and a wind generator, had a fridge and freezer, grew herbs and sprouts, caught fish, and were able to store more food and water. I also enjoyed being self-sufficient, making bread, pizza, snacks, yogurt, granola, … you name it. And, we did laundry by hand. Not that I would want to go back to that!
At the moment, I enjoy roaming about on the road and I have no reason or intention to hop on a boat (yet). We can cover more ground, stay in places as long as we please, and I don’t get seasick!
- Will there be a sequel to Plunge?
I hate to disappoint you, so I’m going to say “I don’t know yet.” At the moment, I am focused on promotion possibilities for Plunge, which is taking up a lot of time. My husband and I are in our upper forties, so we still have to work for a living and attempt to combine that with an adventurous lifestyle that requires lots of time for errand runs and solving issues.
All that being said, I have heaps of ideas for sequels, a prequel, and a stand-alone memoir that I plan to call “How (Not) to Become an American.” I also have been playing with creating a nautical photo/poem coffee table book for many years. I am a writer and a traveler by heart, so I could never give up either of these passions; I just have to find time and a balance to combine them!
- I get the sense from your book that you and Mark don’t worry about problems (with some notable exceptions you mention in the book). You trust yourselves to handle most problems you face. In that way you reduce the stress so many of us struggle with. Right or wrong?
Right and wrong! As you picked up, we are a fan of the “Let’s see what happens” method, if there is such a thing. We rarely plan, are flexible, and trust that everything will work out when you have common sense, the aptitude to learn or research, and the desire to take care of as much as possible yourselves. That belief – or trust – lessens stress. Especially when you add experience, handiness, and knowledge to the mix. I’m also a true believer in not worrying about potential problems before they exist and not fearing the unknown.
Where the stress appears is from never knowing what will be next. While I enjoy that feeling of being “completely free,” having somewhat of a routine or a plan you know will work out brings familiarity and comfort; factors that reduce stress. To be honest, for choosing this “life of leisure” and even naming our previous boat Irie (which means “all is good,” a Jamaican expression to be relaxed), Mark and I are way too stressed still, being A-type personalities.
Here are a couple of examples where stress levels rise… We use an app for free campsites and don’t know where we will spend the night, until we consult this app, either hours or minutes before it’s time to get settled. Usually, everything works out. But when the places mentioned don’t exist (anymore), can’t be found, now sport a “no overnight camping” sign, or feel unsafe, we have an issue that adds hours and heaps of stress to the day.
Or, we have planned a day of running errands in an unfamiliar town. This happens at least once a week. Stop one – a grocery store – has only half of the products they normally carry, so another stop is required. Stop two – the post office that is supposed to have our general delivery package – happens to be the wrong post office, so another stop has to be added. Stop three – an Amazon locker that is reported to have a package for us – is not located where Amazon showed, so we have to drive an extra 20 minutes to the right address. Stop four – a free dump station – is either not free (anymore), doesn’t exist, or the line is five RVs deep, adding precious time lost.
There are often issues that obstruct our progress or time line and add to the stress level. But it all works out in the end, whenever that end is. 😊
The bottom line is that we enjoy our lifestyle and take the cons with the pros. In general, yes, I do think we have less stress (and less expenses) than the average person living in a house. Or we should anyway…
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About Liesbet
Liesbet Collaert’s articles and photos have been published internationally. Born in Belgium, she has been a nomad since 2003 with no plans to settle anytime soon. Her love of travel, diversity, and animals is reflected in her lifestyle choices of sailing, RVing, and house and pet sitting. Liesbet calls herself a world citizen and currently lives “on the road” in North America with her husband and rescue dog. Follow her adventures at www.itsirie.com and www.roamingabout.com.
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Good questions!
Stress seems inevitable. Where as Liesbet may experience more stress when things don’t work out – because of less planning, I probably experience more stress planning in order to make sure I know that things will work out. But ultimately when you are traveling everything is happening on the fly and less than desirable situation always happen.
I agree on the land vs water travel thing. I fell in love with sailing – just the feeling of being on the water. The more secluded a place the better. But traveling on land offers so many more places and things to see and do. Land traveling is a bit overwhelming sometimes – especially if you are like me – or Liesbet – and want to do it all.
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Hi Duwan!
I’m glad you could relate to some of these questions/answers. And, since you know me personally and entertain the same lifestyle, you definitely know what’s up! Your recent blog post fits perfectly within this topic as well.
Every lifestyle has its ups and downs. We both picked a challenging one, but as long as the pros outweigh the cons, we are exactly where we want to be. See you in Baja? :-:
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I guess I’d feel that the water was often the same where the land never is. I could be completely wrong, though!
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That’s one way to look at it, Jacqui. My mom often asked:”Aren’t you getting sick of the same scenery?” after I exclaimed we found another amazing anchorage off an uninhabited island with a sandy beach and palm trees. So, yes, overland travel is more diverse, but sea travel is more unique and peaceful. If the anchorage stays calm enough. 🙂 Mark and I are actually contemplating heading to sea again, because it seems easier to be more remote during Covid…
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I think the fact that you kept finding anchorages on uninhabited islands is amazing!
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There are cruising guides and charts for that, just like camping guides. 🙂
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This book does intrigue me. It sounds like an interesting read. It’s on my list.
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I know I battle with a wanderer’s spirit and a traditionalist brain. This really appealed.
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Virtual travel is the “cure” for that, Jacqui. 🙂
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I do enjoy that!
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I’m not surprised.
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Thanks, Norah. You’ll be transported. 🙂
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😉
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Good questions, Jacqui. I enjoyed the answers, Liesbet 🙂 🙂
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Thanks! And I appreciate the visit.
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You’re very welcome 🙂 🙂
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A little more insight in the person that is “I.” 🙂 Thanks for hopping over, Jo.
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I thought I knew everything about Liesbet and Mark, having met them, read and reviewed Plunge, and then have perused blog post where she been hosted, like here. Excellent questions, Jacqui.
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I loved your post about their four-hour visit, Marian. How fun would that be!
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Hi Marian! I love these interviews – on your, Jacqui’s, and other bloggers’ websites – as, based on the questions, more and more tidbits go viral. While I’m “only” 45, I feel like I have lived a rich and diverse life, which I enjoy sharing. 🙂
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Hi, Jacqui – Like you I greatly enjoyed Plunge and could not put it down once I started to read it. Thank you for featuring Liesbet and Plunge here!
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I love a read that won’t let go. I don’t find as many of those as I wish.
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Hi Donna! I still remember you telling me you read Plunge in record time! Wowzers! I think you and Jacqui are both fast readers who soak up intriguing tales. 🙂
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Am new here can some take me through
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Questions?
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I enjoyed Plunge so much! It re-ignited my love of reading which had gone dark in 2020. I was very interested to hear the response to ‘will there be a sequel’. Something that has been on my mind as well.
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Since I follow Liesbet’s blog, I know there’s a lot more to her story! It’s like stopping after Book 1 of a trilogy.
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To be honest, Jacqui, a prequel might be more interesting than a sequel right now, as our lives have been pretty darn “boring” ever since we got off our boat. 🙂
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I find that hard to believe! I have yet to read a boring blog post from you.
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You sure are helping my ego grow, Sue. 🙂
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Glad to see Liesbet still making the circuit! Great insights. I especially liked the idea for a book – How (not) to become an American. After reading Plunge, and just some of the antics she endured traveling back and forth home to Belgium, it could be a best seller LOL 🙂
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We are different, aren’t we?
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🙂
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Hi Debby! I feel like that (short) memoir is half written in my head already. The experiences sure are there and my road to become an American has been very bumpy. But I struggle with the validity and morality of including one chapter I already wrote and published with Plunge.
What do you think? Is it allowed or frowned upon to reproduce/copy one chapter from an earlier book and repeat it in another book since it’s important to that story?
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Well, that was an important telling about what you endured at customs. I highly recommend NOT copying the full chapter from another book. If the new book is based on your border crossings, you will be writing about your many incidences. If it were me, I would rewrite that chapter of incidence from Plunge and add more details to it, to make it fit in with the new book, yet not be word for word as a repeat. 🙂
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Thanks, Debby! That makes sense. I should be able to rework it a bit. I appreciate your input!
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Don’t forget, you may also refer to the original chapter too, directing to your book Plunge, maybe in an intro? An intro about the premise of the book and what sparked the idea – the original chapter from Plunge. 🙂
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Good point. I’ll try to remember all that whenever I dive into this project. First: a “vacation” in Mexico. 🙂
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So jealous! That’s exactly where I should be heading in Feb. So gross to not be going. 😦
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Yeah, I know. I’m glad you managed to squeeze it in last year. We will see how it goes, taking the van down to southern Baja. Should be quiet there now…
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I enjoyed reading this post, Jacqui. As soon as you are on land and travelling, you have to comply with a whole lot of rules – these are the things that waste time for everyone including Liesbet and Mark. I am fascinated by this idea but would never want to live in such a small space or travel all the time. I enjoy reading about it but I am a home body. Our holidays are never longer than 14 days because I get tired of travelling.
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That struck me too, Robbie. Liesbet got restless in the comfort of four walls. I don’t think I would. That got me thinking, as did so much of what she wrote.
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Did you know that there is a “nomad gene,” Jacqui? I’m serious. I forgot what it’s called, but I’m pretty sure I have it.
Even though we have been living in our camper van for a while, I just realized today that it has been eight (!) years since I visited a new-to-me country. That is ages! I’m craving new cultures and destinations, but, as you know, because of Covid, that might need to wait one more year. While roaming about in the US in a van is slightly adventurous and fits our lifestyle for now, it’s nothing exciting, really…
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Hi Robbie! Travel can be exhausting. It often is. The key to being a happy nomad – I think – is to allow yourself to slow down and sit still (and ideally do nothing for a day once in a while, something I haven’t mastered yet :-)) for periods of a time. Either in the same hotel room or, in our case, in the same camping area. Because I’ve been working heaps the last four months (and because of Covid), we haven’t been able to travel around or sightsee much, once we reached the warmer climes of the desert southwest. The positive about that is we are not sick of traveling yet and don’t feel like we need a break from being on the road yet.
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Great interview, Jacqui and Liesbet. I remember the book review and was delighted Jacqui asked additional questions. Best wishes on the promotion of your book, Liesbet!
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As I read, I wrote them down. I didn’t want this interview to be too long (I like about 700 pages) which explains just three questions. Loved chatting with this fascinating individual!
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They were fantastic questions, Jacqui. And, as you can tell from the answers, I’m a wordy person, so it’s probably a good thing you only asked three!
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Yes, Jacqui. I liked your questions and Liesbet’s responses. Well done!
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Thank you, Miriam! I remember seeing you around the blogosphere. 🙂
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You’re welcome, Liesbet. Good to seeing you again. 😊
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Great blog post. I’m reading Plunge and really enjoying it!
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It’s unusual, innit.
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I wanted this book to be unique, Jacqui, so I’m glad you agree with that outcome.
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Yes, and in a good way. 🙂
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I’m looking forward to your overall opinion about my debut memoir, Deb! I’m thrilled you like it thus far. 🙂
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I’ll post a review when I’m finished!
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Liesbet and Plunge have sure been “roaming about” on WordPress these days! So great to see. I’m about one-third through this lovely book, although a library audiobook just popped up, which I’ll have to read first. Plunge really is a fascinating read and best wishes for continuing success!
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I like how you phrased that, Terri. Yes, Liesbet has been busy. Google is going to think she’s a top seller soon!
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Haha, Jacqui! I think that only happens if I actually sell a lot of books! 🙂 🤞
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Hi Terri! As you have noticed, January has been a busy month for me. 🙂 I’m glad you are savoring “Plunge” yourself. Thank you for following my blog tour!
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Great questions, Jacqui. I was particularly interested in Liesbet’s last answer as to how they handle “stress.” My hubs and I just retired and will begin our much-less-daring travel adventures this summer. It’s comforting to know that even the pros run into challenges and find a way to overcome them. 🙂
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I like the peaceful way they approach problems. Which is so not me!
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Ha ha. I tend to be pretty mellow on the whole, but we’ll see as we hit the road. 😀
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Keep us posted about that, Diana!
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Believe it or not, but there is often impatience and frustration involved as problems get figured out and – hopefully – solved. 🙂
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Hi Diana!
You two have fabulous and exciting prospectives this summer. I believe you will set off in an RV, right? Do you have the rig yet? What kind is it?
Thing is: you can make your travels as comfortable or challenging as you choose. In a way. We’ve decided to rough it a bit more than most (same on our sailing adventure), because of financial reasons and because of our desire to go “small and simple”. We’re not retired.
Thing is, once you are used to being on the road and on your own, you will value the qualities you both bring to that kind of life and you will learn to be more self-sufficient, because you have to. The pros outweigh the cons, otherwise fewer people would hit the road in campers.
Enjoy your new lifestyle! Summer will be here soon. 🙂
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We didn’t go with an RV since that’s a huge investment and we’re just starting out. I’m a camping person, but my husband… not so much. We have a trip to Yosemite planned – a bit of camping and some glamping. 🙂 It’s sure to be fun. And interesting!
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The whole time I was reading Liesbet’s book, I was thinking, “I’d never have the courage to go for it the way that she and Mark did, but I have to know how this all pans out.” I want honesty when I read a memoir, and I got it with this read.
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Yes! I had the same feeling. Having Maya there must have helped a lot. A dog is so calming
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We love having dogs around, Jacqui. Despite them making life a tad more challenging, on a sailboat and in a camper. 🙂
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Thanks, Pete. Honesty is very important to me, even if it exposes our own negative sides. This is life – the ups and downs; our good sides and bad sides. We all come as “a package.” 🙂
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Readers are drawn to that because we want to identify with the characters— fictional or not.
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Great interview, Jacqui and Liesbet! Adding Plunge to my TBR.
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You won’t be sorry. I do think Maine has a whole lot of nature challenges that probably keep you busy and happy.
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Maine is such a wonderful state. In summer. 🙂 Unless you like snow, which does make the natural surroundings even more pristine.
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Thank you, Bette! I’m glad you enjoyed our little Q&A!
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Great interview and answers. I have this on my reading list and look forward to learning more.
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Be prepared to lose an afternoon!
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You read soooo fast, Jacqui!
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That’s fantastic, D.L. I hope you enjoy the read.
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What an amazing background Lisbeth has, and such a colorful and adventurous life she’s led. I loved the interview. Plunge sounds like an exciting read and I wish her all the best!
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It does, doesn’t it? And it reads as good as it sounds.
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Thank you, Mae! The question is… will I ever give up my nomadic existence and settle? I initially thought that would happen by the time I turned 30. That was fifteen years again, haha.
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Ooh, I sense a sequel…
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How wonderful to wake up to this blog post in my inbox, Jacqui! Thank you so much for your continued support for Plunge, for featuring me on your blog today, for your lovely introduction and for that awesome book review. Have a fabulous weekend!
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My pleasure. This is always fun!
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It sure is! I love connecting with new people and rekindling with “old” ones. 🙂
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I have Liesbet´s book in my TBR pile. Hope to get at it soon. It does take a special person to be able to live this kind of lifestyle and I love reading their stories.
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Thanks, Darlene! I hope you enjoy reading Plunge. 🙂
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I live through her vicariously! The characters in my historical fiction always have a touch of wanderlust.
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Only a touch of wanderlust, Jacqui? 🙂
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In a different life, I’d be tramping the Himalayas with Peter Matthiessen!
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Thank you for more info about Liesbet’s life-style and survival.What an interesting life with lots of fodder for more stories! I understand what she means about stress even when you are free to roam and do your own thing. We full-timed in an RV, albeit much larger and with a microwave, for 8 years plus. Different kinds of stress from those who are in a home, but every lifestyle has stress. I thought when we retired, we would be carefree and happy. But that has its own kinds of problems too. We survived all of it and had a great time. Settling into a house was exciting, but some days, I yearn for the open road. Congratulations to Liesbet and continued success with writing projects!
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Thank you, J.Q.! I’m so glad you understand what it means to live on the road full-time. Like you said, every lifestyle has its own challenges. And perfect doesn’t exist! We just have to find a balance that makes us happy and, if we’re convinced that whatever we are doing doesn’t bring us (enough) joy anymore, we have to switch gears.
PS: Our little Zesty has a small microwave as well, which we use for storage. We’d have to run our generator to be able to use it, since we never stay in RV parks. And, we don’t like to use our generator. Solar panels are quieter. 🙂
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“Perfect doesn’t exist”–like “Perfect is the enemy of good”–one of my mottos! And that’s hilarious you use your microwave for storage.
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Hey, I love that quote as well. “Perfect is the enemy of good!” Maybe it was you who first taught/told me this!?
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Oh my–you traveled for 8 years in an RV. Didn’t know that, Janet. That explains a lot about why you had the courage to open your own business.
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What adds to your stress would just send me through the roof. I’m a planner and would want to know every place I was staying a week in advance.
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Haha, Alex! Yep, this lifestyle wouldn’t be for you. Although, I know of many RVers who do plan all their accommodations ahead of time. They stay in real campgrounds and RV parks with amenities. Much more comfort, but also less privacy. And, expensive.
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I enjoyed your interview with Liesbet. It’s wonderful to read of someone living life on her own terms. All the best to her for the success of Plunge!
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Thank you for reading and for your kind words, Liz! I’m taking a little break in February, I think 🙂
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You’re welcome, Liesbet. I would say you’ve earned a little break!
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Good way to put it, Liz–life on her own terms.
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Thanks, Jacqui.
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Terrific interview, ladies. I read and thoroughly enjoyed Plunge. It’s definitely not your ordinary memoir. Congratulations to Liesbet!
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Hello Jill! Welcome back to the blogging world. I hope you reached all your writing deadlines! I’m so glad you liked Plunge and left a raving review for my debut memoir.
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Nothing ordinary about Liesbet. I agree. If anyone’s looking for an interviewee, she has been wonderful to work with!
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Oooh, thank you for the compliment, Jacqui. I’m hoping Jill will have me over later this year as well. 🙂
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Jacqui, after seeing Liesbet around on WP and her engaging comments I feel I know her a bit but it’s lovely to learn more here! Great questions and the first one is not a usual one at all! Most of us live in buildings with firm foundations and I bet many of us, like you and me, yearn a bit for the nomadic lifestyle. Yet, the uncertainty would terrify me … I think! Life is never stress free I imagine, just different ones and probably far less for Liesbet! I really hope she keeps writing and Plunge is on my horizon … with your high recommendation it’s a book I look forward to reading! Happy Weekend to you both! 😀🌺
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Hi Annika!
Isn’t it wonderful how we get to know each other throughout the blogosphere, in comments, posts, and interviews? Especially these days (and for me, the unsettled one, always), it is lovely to have our online communities.
I like how you say “Plunge is on your horizon” as “expanding your horizons” is certainly a theme in my book and I do hope to inspire my readers and have them travel with me, across the horizon. 🙂
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I’m so far from being comfortable with a nomadic life, I’m a bit fearful of travel in general. Liesbet is a wonder to me.
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This is so interesting to me, Jacqui, since you write about 100% nomadic people! I think you pretty much get the gist of this lifestyle – and can virtually travel with us – from reading my and Duwan’s blogs. Aaaah, to be doing that from the comfort of a couch. 🙂
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Hehee. You miss the enticing scents and sounds on a couch!
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Oh, I love travel and miss it SO much … yet, I love coming home and to all my comforts!
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Hi Jacqui and Liesbet – it does sound amazing … and I admire you having the capacity to live life like this … and to find a hubby who is happy with a similar life-style. Good luck with your next project and for developing ‘Plunge’ … all the best – Hilary
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Thank you, Hilary! I’ve often heard from people how I’m “lucky” to have a partner with the same aspirations when it comes to traveling and “roughing it.” While that might be true, and it is certainly very important, I tend to think that if he wouldn’t be up for all these adventures, I wouldn’t be with him (anymore) in the first place. Who knows? 🙂
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It is amazing, as though someone was watching over Liesbet, make sure the pieces came together. Really intriguing story.
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Great questions great answers thank you both. Attitude is All 😀
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Hello again, Susan! You and I, we wallow in the same, amazing, circles. Yes to attitude and following our passions! 🙂
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I’m really rooting for a sequel to this!
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